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8) If you say it long enough the lie becomes the truth, the person pushing the lie makes it come true in the real world. Look at the lie of trickle down economics that is still pushed by the the supply side Arthur L. people. They say the truth will set you free, it depends on whose view of the truth you are accepting. Thoughts aren't real until we make them real.


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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) If you say it long enough the lie becomes the truth, the person pushing the lie makes it come true in the real world. Look at the lie of trickle down economics that is still pushed by the the supply side Arthur L. people. They say the truth will set you free, it depends on whose view of the truth you are accepting. Thoughts aren't real until we make them real.
A lie doesn't become the truth it just gets accepted as so by the ignorant and feeble minded. The really sad fact is that con man Donald supporters know he's lying but simply don't care. As long as he feeds their fears and hatred that's all they need. Truth is going to have very little impact on this election.
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wiseguy wrote: A lie doesn't become the truth it just gets accepted as so by the ignorant and feeble minded. The really sad fact is that con man Donald supporters know he's lying but simply don't care. As long as he feeds their fears and hatred that's all they need. Truth is going to have very little impact on this election.

8) The so called "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was a lie, and the truth of the matter is because of it the Iraq war, and all the problems that has created happened in the real world. We have spent Trillions of dollars because we have lied to ourselves that intervention makes us safer. On the contrary it only provides propaganda to the radical elements of Islam and whips up support for their various causes. By taking a hard line we have only hurt our own economy and have made us less safe than more safe. Everyone now says our interventions were a mistake, so what are we talking about doing, more interventions. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome. Now I know what foreigners mean when the say "crazy Americans".
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8) 56 days out and the race is tight Hillary still has the edge in the electoral college. She didn't help herself with that deplorable tirade, some Conservatives that might have voted for her are now firmly in the Trump camp. With questions about her health resurfacing this has not been a good week for her campaign. Everything now depends on the debates, since Trump doesn't follow the standard debate rules, it will be a tough go. William F. Buckley an accomplished debater said that you usually lose to the person who doesn't follow strict debate rules. I was captain of the debating team in college, there you got penalized by the judges it you didn't follow the rules. This debate will not be judged by academics but rather by the rank and file voter.
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The debates can be a joke. It mostly depends on the moderator now. I think the debates should have broadcasted on-the-fly fact checking and automatic microphone muting at the end of the speakers allotted time to make it impossible for the candidates to talk over one another.
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wiseguy wrote:The debates can be a joke. It mostly depends on the moderator now. I think the debates should have broadcasted on-the-fly fact checking and automatic microphone muting at the end of the speakers allotted time to make it impossible for the candidates to talk over one another.

8) The debates can be crucial if the race is as tight as it seems to be becoming. Along with all the other problems Hillary seems to be developing, she is held to a higher standard than Trump is. He as not released his tax returns, something that would have been unthinkable by most present day candidates. He is supposed to be going on the Dr. Oz show to discuss his health status this week. Both he and Hillary have the highest unfavorable ratings of any modern day Presidential candidates. It has been said this is a race to the bottom, Hillary shouldn't go there since all who have wallowed in the mud with Trump have come out the loser, just ask Lying Ted, Little Marco, and low energy Jeb.
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If con man Donald was held to any standards whatsoever he wouldn't be be where he is right now. His supporters are exactly what Hillary alleged... deplorables.
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wiseguy wrote:If con man Donald was held to any standards whatsoever he wouldn't be be where he is right now. His supporters are exactly what Hillary alleged... deplorables.


8) The reason for the difference in standards can be traced to one factor in this election. People are looking for change, in my opinion in the wrong place, but still they want to shake up the existing order. In this country we let ballots not bullets bring about change. So the election of Trump is more of the working class making a statement to the elites of this country. A wake up call that things have to change, or the country runs the risk of being ungovernable. The very label that was attached to California before Gov. Brown took office and turned the state around. I don't think Trump has the same chops as Brown, and doesn't understand the political process enough to engineer a turn around.
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wiseguy wrote:If con man Donald was held to any standards whatsoever he wouldn't be be where he is right now. His supporters are exactly what Hillary alleged... deplorables.


8) The reason for the difference in standards can be traced to one factor in this election. People are looking for change, in my opinion in the wrong place, but still they want to shake up the existing order. In this country we let ballots not bullets bring about change. So the election of Trump is more of the working class making a statement to the elites of this country. A wake up call that things have to change, or the country runs the risk of being ungovernable. The very label that was attached to California before Gov. Brown took office and turned the state around. I don't think Trump has the same chops as Brown, and doesn't understand the political process enough to engineer a turn around.
I can certainly understand the sentiment of wanting a change from "business as usual" but believing con man Donald is that change is in a word... stupid. A person would have to be either very ill-informed, very unintelligent, very racist, or any combination of the prior, to vote for such an unqualified nitwit. How could anyone with any pride in their country choose such an embarrassment for their president?
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wiseguy wrote: I can certainly understand the sentiment of wanting a change from "business as usual" but believing con man Donald is that change is in a word... stupid. A person would have to be either very ill-informed, very unintelligent, very racist, or any combination of the prior, to vote for such an unqualified nitwit. How could anyone with any pride in their country choose such an embarrassment for their president?

8) There are other reasons wiseguy loss of faith in our elected officials a certain feeling of frustration coupled with fear of the unknown, that is why the message of going back to a simpler time has so much appeal, to people who feel overwhelmed in the new technical world they find themselves in. Just like the KJ that is still disc based even though computer is the way to go. This country is very wealthy and yet we waste a great deal of our wealth by making the rich richer, at the expense of the mass of our population. My brother just got back from a trip to Spain, he speaks the language, he is thinking about going back there to retire. He says a person with a $20,000.00 a year income can live quite comfortably there. You can buy into their national health plan as a foreigner for $230.00 a month, that includes vision and dental. He says the beaches are beautiful and clean, and that you can rent a villa near the ocean for a reasonable price. Not to mention the transportation system is state of the art with bullet trains that travel over 200 miles and hour. You can buy train passes good for any length of time for cheap as well. How can they do all that and we still can't get any of this right?
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The loss of faith in our elected officials, a feeling of frustration, fear of the unknown, and virtually anything else is no excuse for the blatant stupidity of supporting a maniac like con man Donald. Bering overwhelmed by the technical world, for anyone of average intelligence, is simply a result of being too lazy to keep up.

It's cheap to live in Spain because it is a very poor country. The unemployment is over 22% and the minimum wage works out to be just over $5 per hour. A few years ago it was said that you could go to parts of Mexico and live like a king on $1,000 a month. I don't know how true that is today.
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It's cheap to live in Spain because it is a very poor country. The unemployment is over 22% and the minimum wage works out to be just over $5 per hour. A few years ago it was said that you could go to parts of Mexico and live like a king on $1,000 a month. I don't know how true that is today.

Portugal is even poorer and cheaper to live in. You can still live in Mexico cheap, but the lawless aspects of large crime cartels being just as powerful as the government is a problem. Spain still has security issues but they are no where as bad as Mexico, where their own citizens are being terrorized by organized crime. I guess since Spain was a Fascist government under General Franco's dictatorship, they got the law and order thing down to a science.
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8) Well 54 days out and Hillary still has the electoral college advantage, Trump has to run the table on the toss up states, and that is what he is trying to do. Latest polls show him up in Ohio by 5 points, Florida 4 points and Nevada 3 points. Still time is ticking but it doesn't look like the Democrats are going to get the landslide they hoped for. The Senate is still up for grabs. Hopefully some twist in this race will give the win to Hillary. Just like I predicted this race is going to be too close for comfort.
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8) 53 days out and Trump has finally admitted that the President was born in the U.S.A. I guess he finally wrapped his head around the fact that yes Hawaii is part of the United States. It only took years for him to let that sink in. I hope he will we quicker at the debates or it could make for some long evenings for both the moderators and the voters. He saved his statement for the end of his speech, hoping his base wouldn't notice. Then for good measure and to provide some cover, he presented the lie that Hillary in the 2008 Democratic primaries first posed the idea of the birther issue. Really Donald if you were a certain puppet you would have your nose the size of Texas, but then you have never let the truth get in the way of your stories, have you?
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Con man Don is a pathological liar and his supporters know it. They simply don't care. They also know but don't care that he is totally unqualified to be president and that he has no real policies. The only two things that they truly care about are that he is not the typical politician and that he is not Hillary.

The election looks really close right now but I don't think it will stay that way for long. Once Hilary gets well and back to campaigning at full throttle the gap will widen once again.
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