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The Lone Ranger wrote: 8) He is all the things you have said he is wiseguy and more. What we are dealing with here is perception both candidates are seen as dishonest. It is sort of the like the movie double indemnity when you have to chose between Fred Mac Murray's, Walter and Barbara's Stanwicks dishonest wife character. Barbara says "Were both rotten Walter", Fred says "Yeah, but you are just a little bit more rotten baby".
In that particular movie you couldn't root for either lead star, actually Edward G. Robinson was the morale compass of the picture. I still don't see where two flawed candidates make a winning decision. In this case we are going to have to decide which one is a little more rotten, and voter for the least rotten.
I can't agree with that. Hillary is immensely more qualified, immensely more intelligent, immensely more ethical, and immensely more moral than con man Donald. If Hillary was the Republican and con man Donald was the Democrat I would be voting Republican this year.


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wiseguy wrote: I can't agree with that. Hillary is immensely more qualified, immensely more intelligent, immensely more ethical, and immensely more moral than con man Donald. If Hillary was the Republican and con man Donald was the Democrat I would be voting Republican this year.
8) What I meant was that con man Donald only has to reinforce the perception that Hillary is more rotten than he is. I'm not saying she is but just like some people say never Trump others say anyone but Hillary. It is going to come down to the battleground states and the swing voters as usual to determine the outcome. The morale compass I was talking about in this national drama is Bernie Sanders, the one person who could beat both of these candidates, but is not on the voter menu to select.
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The only ones listening to con man Donald are the ones who voted for him in the primaries. The rest of the country has grown weary of his perpetual lying. In a few days, when the FBI announces that they are not recommending charges be brought against Hillary for this email fiasco, more people are going to begin to see these baseless attacks for what they are.
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wiseguy wrote:The only ones listening to con man Donald are the ones who voted for him in the primaries. The rest of the country has grown weary of his perpetual lying. In a few days, when the FBI announces that they are not recommending charges be brought against Hillary for this email fiasco, more people are going to begin to see these baseless attacks for what they are.

8) Let's hope the FBI makes that announcement, and before the convention. Hillary's husband didn't do her any good talking with the head of the Justice Dept on the runway in her plane. It provided ammunition to the opposition and gave the impression that the fix was in. Even if Hillary is given a pass by the FBI, some will say it was because of pressure brought to bear from the White House. It is important for the Clinton's not to make such bone head mistakes, this election might be closer than anybody thinks. The level of frustration is so high anything might happen, like it did in England. The voters went to the polls and the next morning had buyers remorse. Let's hope we don't wake up the day after the election in the same state, with The Donald as President.
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Bill certainly shouldn't have done that but it is completely inconsequential unless the FBI recommends charges and the Justice Department refuses to prosecute. There will always be some conspiracy theorists (aka the GOP) who will allege that the president had put in the "fix". Nothing new there.

The frustration is mainly among angry white men... con man Donald's base. They are not enough to help him. He will lose the election badly for three reasons. Women, Latinos, and African Americans.
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8) Don't forget Asians he is not popular with them either. I hope things work out like you have said wiseguy, we will know soon. The main thing is to put as many scores on our side so the other side will lose badly and maybe we can get back control of the Senate and pick up at least 20 seats in the house.
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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) Don't forget Asians he is not popular with them either. I hope things work out like you have said wiseguy, we will know soon. The main thing is to put as many scores on our side so the other side will lose badly and maybe we can get back control of the Senate and pick up at least 20 seats in the house.
Yes, you can add Asians, Muslims, Native Americans, and virtually every other minority. Then you have to consider that Hillary knows how to campaign, has the best staff available, and has plenty of funds. Now she has one of the best campaigner's in history, president Obama, going on the campaign trail to support her. Meanwhile, con man Donald is a clown surrounded by buffoons. Republicans in other races are between a rock and a hard place. They don't want to be associated with con man Donald, but at the same time, it looks bad when they won't endorse the Republican presidential nominee. It's shaping up to be a good election year for the Democrats.
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8) The only fly in the ointment is the damned e-mails. Hillary met with the FBI for three hours to answer questions, she brought with her 6 staffers and that did not play well with the questioners. I saw a former FBI director on NBC news and he said three hours would not be enough time to complete this part of the investigation. So the process continues and will drag on until after the convention most likely. This director said if Hillary lied to the FBI during the questioning, that she could be charged, since while not perjury it is still a criminal act. At the rate this is going on it could still not be completed until after the election. The procedure is for the FBI to make it's findings known to the Justice Department, and then the ball would be in Loretta Lynch's court. She has already indicated that she would proceed according to the FBI's findings. The next step would be to take this to a Grand Jury, and seek an indictment. If all this happens it could be that Hillary is sworn in and then a sitting President is indicted, if things don't break her way.
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People in the news agencies, who are privy to inside information that we are not, virtually all are saying that the FBI will not be recommending charges. Even con man Donald's sources are telling him this. I expect the announcement to come out within the week.
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wiseguy wrote:People in the news agencies, who are privy to inside information that we are not, virtually all are saying that the FBI will not be recommending charges. Even con man Donald's sources are telling him this. I expect the announcement to come out within the week.

8) I seem to recall those same people, said Bill Clinton would not be impeached but he was. True he didn't have to resign like Nixon but there was a taint on his Presidency, that still continues to this very day.
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wiseguy wrote:People in the news agencies, who are privy to inside information that we are not, virtually all are saying that the FBI will not be recommending charges. Even con man Donald's sources are telling him this. I expect the announcement to come out within the week.

8) I seem to recall those same people, said Bill Clinton would not be impeached but he was. True he didn't have to resign like Nixon but there was a taint on his Presidency, that still continues to this very day.
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And here it is. An official statement from the FBI.

"Although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.".
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ail-system

Sorry to burst your bubble Bigdog but Hillary will NOT be indicted. :lol:
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8) It was a plus that the FBI decided not to pursue the matter of the e-mails now the ball is in the Justice Departments court. I think they will act on the recommendation of the FBI director and not take the issue up with the Grand Jury. It is good to have this done before the convention. While the director did not feel that it was warranted to take further action, he still said that the handling of classified material by Hillary and the State Department was at best questionable. It brings up the point that Sanders pushed about Hillary judgement, not that hers isn't better in my opinion to The Donald's. The Conservatives were smelling blood in the water, it looks like it will not be feeding time for the sharks this time. Still the Clinton's have really pushed the envelope and it would be best for them to really think about keeping their skirts clean during the election anyway. Trump of course will try to make something of this, but really he has his own problems, just keeping his campaign between the lines.
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Loretta Lynch has stated that she will follow the recommendation of the FBI long before they made this announcement. It's all over but the Republican whining. I've been listening to the GOP talking heads cry about how Hillary's judgement is so questionable but not one of them has the balls to compare her judgement to con man Donald's. That's because they know that he is completely unqualified and has absolutely no experience to draw on when making any judgement call.
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wiseguy wrote:Loretta Lynch has stated that she will follow the recommendation of the FBI long before they made this announcement. It's all over but the Republican whining. I've been listening to the GOP talking heads cry about how Hillary's judgement is so questionable but not one of them has the balls to compare her judgement to con man Donald's. That's because they know that he is completely unqualified and has absolutely no experience to draw on when making any judgement call.
8) Paul Ryan might be whining, but he is also taking some action. It is amazing how many things can't be done by Congress yet the house can set up hearings the very next day. They are planning on calling in the FBI director tomorrow, and Loretta Lynch the day after, now if they could only pass a jobs bill, no that would be actually doing something. Ryan is also saying since Clinton is so careless about handling classified information that the usual briefing given to nominees should not be given to her. Yeah he isn't going to brief her, but he is going to brief The Donald, give me a break, he will probably tweet anything presented to him, talk about a security breach. If they don't brief one candidate then they shouldn't brief any.
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