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8) The Republicans are in a serious state of denial. They wring their collective hands and bemoan the fate of their party with Trump at the helm. They continue to say that they will hold their nose and support whoever is nominated by the party, just to beat Hillary or Bernie. They don't want to look in the mirror and see the reflection because it is too horrible to even look on. For years the Grand Old Party has been like the portrait of Dorian Grey. Clean and forever young on the outside, a facade that covers up to darker less attractive features of the party. It surprises me that there are still minorities that vote Republican. It is not only against their own economic self interest, but this party attracts the most racist elements of society, and the group most likely to inflict bodily harm on them. It is hard to support an organization that actually hates you and where 20% believe that slavery should not have been abolished. This is the party of Lincoln, really?


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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) The Republicans are in a serious state of denial. They wring their collective hands and bemoan the fate of their party with Trump at the helm. They continue to say that they will hold their nose and support whoever is nominated by the party, just to beat Hillary or Bernie. They don't want to look in the mirror and see the reflection because it is too horrible to even look on. For years the Grand Old Party has been like the portrait of Dorian Grey. Clean and forever young on the outside, a facade that covers up to darker less attractive features of the party. It surprises me that there are still minorities that vote Republican. It is not only against their own economic self interest, but this party attracts the most racist elements of society, and the group most likely to inflict bodily harm on them. It is hard to support an organization that actually hates you and where 20% believe that slavery should not have been abolished. This is the party of Lincoln, really?
Many Republicans have sworn to distance themselves from Trump if he gets the nomination simply for self preservation. The Republican party in general is just like Trump. They believe in everything he believes in but are smart enough to not say it out loud. The party has devolved into a batshit crazy mob of bigots, racists, and misogynists.

There are many reasons people vote against their own best interest. There are idiots who have been duped into believing that it is undocumented immigrants, minorities, and the poor who are at the root of their problems. Some morons are so afraid of losing their guns that they don't care about any other issues. Most disturbing of all are the ones who vote according to their religious values. They are the ones who have done the most to hinder progress.

It all comes down to a lack of intelligence. It's not being smart enough to look into the facts but let others dupe them into believing lies. It's being stupid enough to not realize that they're getting played by the NRA. It's the foolishness of accepting myths from an ancient book over logic and science.
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wiseguy wrote: Many Republicans have sworn to distance themselves from Trump if he gets the nomination simply for self preservation. The Republican party in general is just like Trump. They believe in everything he believes in but are smart enough to not say it out loud. The party has devolved into a batshit crazy mob of bigots, racists, and misogynists.

There are many reasons people vote against their own best interest. There are idiots who have been duped into believing that it is undocumented immigrants, minorities, and the poor who are at the root of their problems. Some morons are so afraid of losing their guns that they don't care about any other issues. Most disturbing of all are the ones who vote according to their religious values. They are the ones who have done the most to hinder progress.

It all comes down to a lack of intelligence. It's not being smart enough to look into the facts but let others dupe them into believing lies. It's being stupid enough to not realize that they're getting played by the NRA. It's the foolishness of accepting myths from an ancient book over logic and science.

8) You have to remember wiseguy that only one third of the Republican Party votes in these primaries in comparison to the general election, in November. Trump has carved out about 40% of this one third. It is a very small section when you stop and think about it. The other 66% of the Republican Party will either stay home or vote depending on how they feel. They might vote for Trump some might even vote for Hillary, I doubt if they could bring themselves to vote for Sanders, although that idea is not as far fetched as it may seem. On several issues Sanders and Trump are in agreement, trade, single payer health care, and taxing hedge funds. I don't know if a lack of intelligence is exactly correct since there seems to be some professionals that are supporting Trump, not many but some. If anything turns off the voters especially the independents is will be the increasing violence and chaos of the last couple of weeks. Tomorrow should tell us how this drama is going to play out either Trump will put it away along with Hillary, or we will continue to play the game.
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wiseguy wrote: Many Republicans have sworn to distance themselves from Trump if he gets the nomination simply for self preservation. The Republican party in general is just like Trump. They believe in everything he believes in but are smart enough to not say it out loud. The party has devolved into a batshit crazy mob of bigots, racists, and misogynists.

There are many reasons people vote against their own best interest. There are idiots who have been duped into believing that it is undocumented immigrants, minorities, and the poor who are at the root of their problems. Some morons are so afraid of losing their guns that they don't care about any other issues. Most disturbing of all are the ones who vote according to their religious values. They are the ones who have done the most to hinder progress.

It all comes down to a lack of intelligence. It's not being smart enough to look into the facts but let others dupe them into believing lies. It's being stupid enough to not realize that they're getting played by the NRA. It's the foolishness of accepting myths from an ancient book over logic and science.

8) You have to remember wiseguy that only one third of the Republican Party votes in these primaries in comparison to the general election, in November. Trump has carved out about 40% of this one third. It is a very small section when you stop and think about it. The other 66% of the Republican Party will either stay home or vote depending on how they feel. They might vote for Trump some might even vote for Hillary, I doubt if they could bring themselves to vote for Sanders, although that idea is not as far fetched as it may seem. On several issues Sanders and Trump are in agreement, trade, single payer health care, and taxing hedge funds. I don't know if a lack of intelligence is exactly correct since there seems to be some professionals that are supporting Trump, not many but some. If anything turns off the voters especially the independents is will be the increasing violence and chaos of the last couple of weeks. Tomorrow should tell us how this drama is going to play out either Trump will put it away along with Hillary, or we will continue to play the game.
A person doesn't need to have a low IQ to be stupid... e.g. Ben Carson. It's not just the Republican primary voters who habitually vote against their own best interest. They do so overwhelmingly in the general election as well.
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wiseguy wrote: A person doesn't need to have a low IQ to be stupid... e.g. Ben Carson. It's not just the Republican primary voters who habitually vote against their own best interest. They do so overwhelmingly in the general election as well.

8) One of the most cultured and educated populace existed in Germany, before the rise of Hitler. Yet by playing on the people's fears and economic bad times the Nazis managed to grab power in Germany and hold it. In much the same way Trump is playing on the fears of Republican voters, to gain the party nomination. Fear can make people do things they would otherwise not do. Case in point Little Marco, he thought that he had to push back against Trump, and get down on his level. It did not help him it only made him look bad. Everyone expects this type of behavior from Trump, it is already baked into the cake. Little Marco should have stayed on message like Kasich did at least John is still in the game in Ohio and might win, it is still close.
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wiseguy wrote: A person doesn't need to have a low IQ to be stupid... e.g. Ben Carson. It's not just the Republican primary voters who habitually vote against their own best interest. They do so overwhelmingly in the general election as well.

8) One of the most cultured and educated populace existed in Germany, before the rise of Hitler. Yet by playing on the people's fears and economic bad times the Nazis managed to grab power in Germany and hold it. In much the same way Trump is playing on the fears of Republican voters, to gain the party nomination. Fear can make people do things they would otherwise not do. Case in point Little Marco, he thought that he had to push back against Trump, and get down on his level. It did not help him it only made him look bad. Everyone expects this type of behavior from Trump, it is already baked into the cake. Little Marco should have stayed on message like Kasich did at least John is still in the game in Ohio and might win, it is still close.
I think we have a different situation with Trump. Instead of playing on peoples' fear he's playing to their bigotry, racism, and hatred. He's become the spokesperson for the worst our society has to offer.
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wiseguy wrote: I think we have a different situation with Trump. Instead of playing on peoples' fear he's playing to their bigotry, racism, and hatred. He's become the spokesperson for the worst our society has to offer.

8) Bigotry, racism, and hatred all start with fear don't they wiseguy? It is reactions to things we don't understand and are afraid of. During WWII the Japanese citizens of this country were rounded up and placed in interment camps aka concentration camps. They were forced to leave their homes and business's and were not compensated for their loses, until fairly recently. Yet young Japanese men joined the military and fought for this country in Europe. Showing they were better than the people who had wronged them. These were U.S. citizens treated in this manner, it did not happen to German U.S. citizens or Italian U.S. citizens even though we were at war with both Germany and Italy.

It is fear that keeps us so divided as a nation, that 186 rich families through political contributions have corrupted our political system. We are no longer a Democratic Republic if we continue to allow this super rich oligarchy, to control the rest of us. We need to get out and vote, ballots instead of bullets should always be the first choice. The only problem is the candidates for the most part are controlled by the rich who give money to both sides, buying influence. So really is there a choice, really?
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wiseguy wrote: I think we have a different situation with Trump. Instead of playing on peoples' fear he's playing to their bigotry, racism, and hatred. He's become the spokesperson for the worst our society has to offer.

8) Bigotry, racism, and hatred all start with fear don't they wiseguy? It is reactions to things we don't understand and are afraid of. During WWII the Japanese citizens of this country were rounded up and placed in interment camps aka concentration camps. They were forced to leave their homes and business's and were not compensated for their loses, until fairly recently. Yet young Japanese men joined the military and fought for this country in Europe. Showing they were better than the people who had wronged them. These were U.S. citizens treated in this manner, it did not happen to German U.S. citizens or Italian U.S. citizens even though we were at war with both Germany and Italy.

It is fear that keeps us so divided as a nation, that 186 rich families through political contributions have corrupted our political system. We are no longer a Democratic Republic if we continue to allow this super rich oligarchy, to control the rest of us. We need to get out and vote, ballots instead of bullets should always be the first choice. The only problem is the candidates for the most part are controlled by the rich who give money to both sides, buying influence. So really is there a choice, really?
Bigotry and racism may have originated from fear but that happened long ago. Trump isn't bringing up any new feelings... he's just stoking what is already there. Is there really a choice? Absolutely, and his name is Bernie Sanders. He is not beholden to anyone other than the American people and he is ready to start the revolution that we need so desperately. If he can do in Florida and/or Ohio what he did in Michigan everyone will start taking him seriously.
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wiseguy wrote: Bigotry and racism may have originated from fear but that happened long ago. Trump isn't bringing up any new feelings... he's just stoking what is already there. Is there really a choice? Absolutely, and his name is Bernie Sanders. He is not beholden to anyone other than the American people and he is ready to start the revolution that we need so desperately. If he can do in Florida and/or Ohio what he did in Michigan everyone will start taking him seriously.

8) As much as I like Bernie the forces arrayed against him getting the Democratic nomination are formidable. Hillary has the momentum, the super pacs, Wall Street, and the math on her side. Bernie has been successful in pushing her over to the left of center, whether she stays there is anybody's guess. Hillary is in the driver's seat, just like Trump is right now. Things might change today, but the odds are against it. The only thing that might change matters is if Hillary is indicted for her e-mails. If that should happen she will be forced to resign, and leave the field open for Sanders. The real revolution is going to come when the masses no longer will tolerate the few controlling their lives. There is the old Spanish proverb, "about shepherds changing but sheep remaining sheep". It remains to be seen if we continue to be sheared and milked.
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8) A funny thing happened on the way to the forum. It was the Ides of March and Little Caesar, I mean Little Marco was politically stabbed to death, at the foot of Trump's statue. He was told to beware the Ides of March by the soothsayer, I mean the polls, but elected to fight anyway, instead of quitting to come back another day. It wasn't even close "Mother of God is this the end of Little Rico", I mean Marco? Even though Kasich won his state the Donald picked up enough delegates to pretty much, make the Ohio favorite son's victory a hollow one. There is little hope that Cruz will win that head to head match up he wanted with Trump. Kasich is still in the race and Cruz's best states are behind him. Trump is half way to getting enough delegates to avoid a brokered convention. Little Marco suspended his campaign aka he threw in the towel finally. The question is what happens to his delegates since when he quits they go up for grabs?

Sanders on the other hand has run out of rabbits in his hat since he failed to get Ohio or Illinois, and was barely hanging on in Missouri. Unless Hillary is indicted by the F.B.I. it would seem she will get the nomination of the Democratic Party. This is what I meant by is there really any good choice this year? The two front runners share one thing in common, they both have the lowest approval ratings for their respective parties. Some choice.
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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) A funny thing happened on the way to the forum. It was the Ides of March and Little Caesar, I mean Little Marco was politically stabbed to death, at the foot of Trump's statue. He was told to beware the Ides of March by the soothsayer, I mean the polls, but elected to fight anyway, instead of quitting to come back another day. It wasn't even close "Mother of God is this the end of Little Rico", I mean Marco? Even though Kasich won his state the Donald picked up enough delegates to pretty much, make the Ohio favorite son's victory a hollow one. There is little hope that Cruz will win that head to head match up he wanted with Trump. Kasich is still in the race and Cruz's best states are behind him. Trump is half way to getting enough delegates to avoid a brokered convention. Little Marco suspended his campaign aka he threw in the towel finally. The question is what happens to his delegates since when he quits they go up for grabs?

Sanders on the other hand has run out of rabbits in his hat since he failed to get Ohio or Illinois, and was barely hanging on in Missouri. Unless Hillary is indicted by the F.B.I. it would seem she will get the nomination of the Democratic Party. This is what I meant by is there really any good choice this year? The two front runners share one thing in common, they both have the lowest approval ratings for their respective parties. Some choice.
Yes, poor Rubio just didn't have what it takes... but he blames god... idiot. Trump did okay but it wasn't a landslide victory. I think he's losing some steam and it will be interesting to see how he fairs going forward. Bernie is down but certainly not out. He earned a significant number of delegates on the 15th. There are 27 primaries and caucuses between now and June 7 and it is conceivable that Bernie will win all or nearly all of them. I won't give up on Bernie until he gives up.

Hillary will not be indicted because she did nothing that her predecessors have not done. It's just another witch hunt like Benghazi.
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wiseguy wrote: Yes, poor Rubio just didn't have what it takes... but he blames god... idiot. Trump did okay but it wasn't a landslide victory. I think he's losing some steam and it will be interesting to see how he fairs going forward. Bernie is down but certainly not out. He earned a significant number of delegates on the 15th. There are 27 primaries and caucuses between now and June 7 and it is conceivable that Bernie will win all or nearly all of them. I won't give up on Bernie until he gives up.

Hillary will not be indicted because she did nothing that her predecessors have not done. It's just another witch hunt like Benghazi.

8) It may have not been a landslide victory wiseguy but it was the best possible outcome for Trump. He lost Ohio, but that kept Kasich in the game, Cruz picked up no wins, and didn't move his delegate needle up that much. Trump does not want to have a one on one with either Cruz or Kasich, since he has a hard time getting over the 50% threshold with even Republican primary voters. Bernie is having a problem with the momentum that is on Hillary's side, and of course the math, she has the lion's share of the super delegates. There is no winner take all states with the Democrats, it's all proportional. I am also tired of hearing about the damn e-mails, but you know the Republicans are going to milk that for all it's worth. Look how long they tried to make something out of Benghazi. It all goes back to painting Hillary as to clever by half, since her husband is slick Willie, all part of the Clinton legacy, both good and bad.
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wiseguy wrote: Yes, poor Rubio just didn't have what it takes... but he blames god... idiot. Trump did okay but it wasn't a landslide victory. I think he's losing some steam and it will be interesting to see how he fairs going forward. Bernie is down but certainly not out. He earned a significant number of delegates on the 15th. There are 27 primaries and caucuses between now and June 7 and it is conceivable that Bernie will win all or nearly all of them. I won't give up on Bernie until he gives up.

Hillary will not be indicted because she did nothing that her predecessors have not done. It's just another witch hunt like Benghazi.

8) It may have not been a landslide victory wiseguy but it was the best possible outcome for Trump. He lost Ohio, but that kept Kasich in the game, Cruz picked up no wins, and didn't move his delegate needle up that much. Trump does not want to have a one on one with either Cruz or Kasich, since he has a hard time getting over the 50% threshold with even Republican primary voters. Bernie is having a problem with the momentum that is on Hillary's side, and of course the math, she has the lion's share of the super delegates. There is no winner take all states with the Democrats, it's all proportional. I am also tired of hearing about the damn e-mails, but you know the Republicans are going to milk that for all it's worth. Look how long they tried to make something out of Benghazi. It all goes back to painting Hillary as to clever by half, since her husband is slick Willie, all part of the Clinton legacy, both good and bad.
The only thing that Cruz and Kasich can accomplish is to prevent Trump from winning the nomination outright and hope that the GOP pulls off some miracle at the convention. If either one of them drops out Trump would likely pull enough of their supporters to exceed the 50% mark.

Sanders would have to win big from now on to have any chance. That is indeed a long shot but not impossible. Hillary is now going down virtually the same path that Obama did to defeat her. This is the craziest primary I have ever witnessed. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
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wiseguy wrote: The only thing that Cruz and Kasich can accomplish is to prevent Trump from winning the nomination outright and hope that the GOP pulls off some miracle at the convention. If either one of them drops out Trump would likely pull enough of their supporters to exceed the 50% mark.

Sanders would have to win big from now on to have any chance. That is indeed a long shot but not impossible. Hillary is now going down virtually the same path that Obama did to defeat her. This is the craziest primary I have ever witnessed. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

8) From what I have seen on the morning news, it would seem most Republicans are conceding that Hillary is the nominee presumptive. This means even though they would love to run against Bernie, since most voters don't know the difference between a Social Democrat and a true Communist, it is Hillary that is going to be the opponent come November. It might be a convention for the Republicans if it is then everything I think will turn on Mr. Green Eggs and Ham Cruz. He is not well liked by any of the establishment in the Republican Party. After all he was instrumental in shutting down the government, and giving the GOP a black eye, that no amount of steak can fix. Cruz knows that both he and Trump could be on the outside looking in since they term themselves the outsiders. Cruz wants to be a player, power broker, deciding factor, how can he continue to play the game? Simple he will throw all of his delegates to Trump on the first ballot in exchange for the VP slot. This might sound absurd, but think about it. With a ticket of him and Trump you sew up the South, Trump does well in the rust belt and North East, normally the stronghold of the Democrats. Kasich says he will support the nominee and or the party ticket, and Ohio as well could be for the GOP.

This whole scenario depends on if Cruz thinks long term instead of short term. If the party splits and a new third party emerges the Conservatives could be out of power for decades. Cruz is still young, and would have a chance after Trump is President to be next in line. There is also the matter of the Supreme Court Vacancy that will not be decided until after the election. What would happen if President Trump nominates Cruz for the open court vacancy? A perfect job for a person who wants to influence the whole country and never have to stand for election again. Then he could do his thing and be a gad fly for the rest of his life, you can pry the gavel from my cold dead hand. One positive thing that would come out of Cruz being the Vice President, is the threat to Trump's life would go way down. Just like when Chaney was next in line to Bush II. Sort of the old story of Charles the Second and his brother James the Second. James was in charge of Charles's security and warned that he might get assassinated. Charles said to James "Oh Jamie they would never do that then you would be king".
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8) Well it is the day after St. Patrick's Day, I don't mind telling you I had some dark beer and Irish whiskey yesterday. I also dusted off the speakers and did a show for the local American Legion of which I am a member. The corn beef and cabbage was moderately priced at 5.00 a plate. I sang some songs that only get played once a year and then go back in mothballs.

Behind the scenes the President is telling political backers that they should get behind Hillary, and close ranks. As far as Sanders is concerned it is all over it would seem. It would make sense for the Democrats to close ranks now, and appear to be the adults in the room. The political knife fights will continue with the Republicans until the convention, it would seem. I saw an article where California could be the deciding battle ground for the GOP. With 174 delegates it would be an even bigger prize than Texas, it is practically the last primary of the current season.
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