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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) Well like Bill Maher said "The voters have grunted" , Trump won the bulk of the states, and the delegates. A leader that did not disavow the KKK and David Duke on CNN Sunday, and quotes Benito Mussolini. This is the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower, my how the mighty have fallen. A party that freed the slaves, broke up the big business trusts, passed child labor laws, and enacted clean food and drug acts. A party that pushed through the National Highway system we still use today, though they need to overall it badly. They now poison babies in Flint Michigan with lead laced water to save the few pennies it would cost keep it clean, so they can cut taxes for the wealthy. I don't blame the voters for revolting against the current corrupt system. They could have picked a better white knight to rescue them however.
When your supporters are just like you, you can say whatever you want. Trump supporters are that ugly demographic of Americans that hold onto bigotry and racism. They do not represent the majority of Americans and that is why a Trump can never win the presidency.


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wiseguy wrote: Hitler never won a majority vote of the German people. The best the Nazi party ever did was around 44% in 1933 and that was a far cry from a free election. Hitler made his way to the top buy force and terror. Remember the brownshirts? There is no comparison between Hitler's rise to power and a Donald Trump getting elected. Trumps constant display of racism and ignorance appeals only to other racist and ignorant people. Unfortunately, that encompasses a large percentage of the Republican party. There is no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of American voters look at Trump as the buffoon he is. He will incite intelligent voters to go to the polls to vote against him.
8) Actually wiseguy Hitler was asked to form a government by the leader of the German Republic at that time President Hindenburg, the WWI hero. Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor and his actions carried the aura of legality, then the brown shirts really started suppressing government opposition. That was because the old general Hindenburg was more afraid of Communists than he was Nazi's a big mistake, not long afterward Hindenburg died and Hitler was then the supreme leader. Hindenburg was elected by the majority of the German people. Once Hitler was Chancellor no other parties were allowed in Germany.

The most disturbing thing to come out of Nevada last night was that 45% of the Hispanics that participated in the process voted for Trump, after everything he said about Latinos. Of course that probably only represents the most conservative members of that community, but still that is unbelievable. Especially since people in this group know others personally that would be targeted for mass deportation. Of course Trump will never follow through on his campaign promises, but still that in itself is dangerous. If the American voter is lied to again and nothing gets done in Washington, it could lead to voters losing patience and trust in our whole political system. If that happens it could undo the entire political fabric of this country.
I think you would have to agree that Hitler was never voted into office by the German people in a free election. That was the only point I was making.

Those were Republican Hispanics voting in Nevada. Latest research indicates that nation wide just 20% of Hispanic voters identify themselves as Republican while 67% identify themselves as Democrat. Even independents tend to vote Democrat. If Trump goes up against any Democrat he will lose badly among Hispanic voters.
Sure the majority is democommies...they are the ones getting the free stuff that I pay for..

Here is what killed the middle class and Clinton signed it into law...read about the impact it had on American jobs...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A ... ent#Impact
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wiseguy wrote:
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Those were Republican Hispanics voting in Nevada. Latest research indicates that nation wide just 20% of Hispanic voters identify themselves as Republican while 67% identify themselves as Democrat. Even independents tend to vote Democrat. If Trump goes up against any Democrat he will lose badly among Hispanic voters.

8) I don't doubt that in a general election Trump will suffer for his negative comments about minorities, and his blanket deportation threats. Even conservative Hispanics should realize that his election will be bad for the minority communities they live, and do business in. One idea that has been floated is that Rubio being young will consent to be Trump's VP nominee. This would be in the hope of maybe getting Florida in the Republican's win column and peeling off some of the Hispanic vote from the Democrats. Let's all hope you are right and Trump won't win the general election, it would seem his support is broad based at least in the Republican party.
Come on... I was hoping he'd choose Palin as his running mate. That would complete the Trump circus freak show. If Rubio were to be his running mate he would have to publicly support ALL of Trump's absurdities. I don't see that gaining them anything. The only hope that Trump has is if Democrats have a very poor showing at the polls. It would have to less of a showing than the past two elections. I really don't see that happening. I think the opposite will happen as Trump excites rational and sane people to get out and vote against him.
Don't forget Hilary is going to be indited for her email stuff and Benghasi killings
the country has a history of ignoring people that commit crimes ie the 14 million illegal aliens...but she hasn't counted on Trump reminding everyone about her illegal actions....she will go down in flames and will kneel before KING TRUMP... All hail the king... :D

Trumps train will run right over her dead body... Thank GOD and everyone else that supports him...
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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) Well like Bill Maher said "The voters have grunted" , Trump won the bulk of the states, and the delegates. A leader that did not disavow the KKK and David Duke on CNN Sunday, and quotes Benito Mussolini. This is the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower, my how the mighty have fallen. A party that freed the slaves, broke up the big business trusts, passed child labor laws, and enacted clean food and drug acts. A party that pushed through the National Highway system we still use today, though they need to overall it badly. They now poison babies in Flint Michigan with lead laced water to save the few pennies it would cost keep it clean, so they can cut taxes for the wealthy. I don't blame the voters for revolting against the current corrupt system. They could have picked a better white knight to rescue them however.
It's no different than the Black panthers and 14 million criminals that are casting votes for Hilary. Bill Maher is an idiot drunk on commie coolaid. Obama ignored the work needed for the crumbling infrastructure in his last seven years...so he poisoned Detroit.
But we got Obama care that nobody can afford to buy and nobody can afford to use because the deductibles are so high... Great job killing accomplishment... He is killing Karaoke too... Worst president in history..
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China is in big trouble...we are in the same economic boat thanks to Noboma's know nothing policies ..

Get ready for a big down hill ride... Our third Great Depression is coming... 1929, 2008 and 2016....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/millions- ... 16061.html

Another fail for socialist/communist ideas...not in my country..
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Don't forget Hilary is going to be indited for her email stuff and Benghasi killings
the country has a history of ignoring people that commit crimes ie the 14 million illegal aliens...but she hasn't counted on Trump reminding everyone about her illegal actions....she will go down in flames and will kneel before KING TRUMP... All hail the king... :D

Trumps train will run right over her dead body... Thank GOD and everyone else that supports him...
What are you smoking? There have been SEVEN investigations of Benghazi led mostly by Republicans in the Congress that concluded nobody did anything wrong. They could have seven more investigations and come to the same conclusion. All they have done is waste millions of tax dollars on a witch hunt.

Trump doesn't need to remind anyone. The email scandal investigation is ongoing and going nowhere as well. In fact, the investigation is not even going to continue until after the election. If Clinton is then president it will be very difficult to make any charges stick. But don't take for granted that Clinton will win the primary anyway. It could be Sanders. Regardless, either one of them will destroy Trump (if he gets the nod) in the general election.
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The Lone Ranger wrote:8) Well like Bill Maher said "The voters have grunted" , Trump won the bulk of the states, and the delegates. A leader that did not disavow the KKK and David Duke on CNN Sunday, and quotes Benito Mussolini. This is the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower, my how the mighty have fallen. A party that freed the slaves, broke up the big business trusts, passed child labor laws, and enacted clean food and drug acts. A party that pushed through the National Highway system we still use today, though they need to overall it badly. They now poison babies in Flint Michigan with lead laced water to save the few pennies it would cost keep it clean, so they can cut taxes for the wealthy. I don't blame the voters for revolting against the current corrupt system. They could have picked a better white knight to rescue them however.
It's no different than the Black panthers and 14 million criminals that are casting votes for Hilary. Bill Maher is an idiot drunk on commie coolaid. Obama ignored the work needed for the crumbling infrastructure in his last seven years...so he poisoned Detroit.
But we got Obama care that nobody can afford to buy and nobody can afford to use because the deductibles are so high... Great job killing accomplishment... He is killing Karaoke too... Worst president in history..
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you and wondering how you got headed down this path of being so misinformed. I think you actually believe that 14 million undocumented immigrants are voting even though you have not a shred of evidence. Bill Maher is just a comedian and talk show host. The Flint water poisoning was a direct result of Republican Gov. Rick Snyder's choice to draw the city’s drinking water from the polluted Flint River instead of from Lake Huron and then ignoring the results. But of course you will need to find a way to blame Obama.

Nobody can afford Obamacare? I can... and so can a lot of other people I know. It actually saved me quite a bit of money. The fact is that less than 5% of the country (who correctly take advantage of the Obamacare system) will pay more for health insurance. Most will save money and get improved coverage as well as coverage for preexisting conditions and being able to keep their children on their plan longer.

Omama is killing karaoke? :lol: Karaoke is alive and well for those of us who have adapted to the changes in the bar business. You can't blame Obama because you refuse to conform.
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Bigdog wrote:China is in big trouble...we are in the same economic boat thanks to Noboma's know nothing policies ..

Get ready for a big down hill ride... Our third Great Depression is coming... 1929, 2008 and 2016....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/millions- ... 16061.html

Another fail for socialist/communist ideas...not in my country..
Is this your next Ebola? I love it when you make predictions. :lol:
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wiseguy wrote: When your supporters are just like you, you can say whatever you want. Trump supporters are that ugly demographic of Americans that hold onto bigotry and racism. They do not represent the majority of Americans and that is why a Trump can never win the presidency.

8) There is one way Trump can win voter apathy. So far in this primary cycle the Republicans have turned out over 3 million more voters than the Democrats have. The exact opposite of what happened in 2008 when the Democrats led by 3 million more voters this time in the primary cycle. Much of this turn out is credited to Donald Trump, go figure. Trump is a dangerous opponent because of his unpredictability, where Cruz and Rubio come on in the more standard political manner. The Republican Party is now devising all series of plots to rob Trump of the nomination. If they succeed it will prove that the will of the people means nothing, and that the party is in control of the elite. Trump is much like a monster that is out of control. The elite good Dr. Frankenstein is trying to destroy him, now they are fighting on the burning windmill, and the monster is about to throw the doctor off. The problem is the angry villagers with their pitch forks are rooting for the monster, this time.
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wiseguy wrote: When your supporters are just like you, you can say whatever you want. Trump supporters are that ugly demographic of Americans that hold onto bigotry and racism. They do not represent the majority of Americans and that is why a Trump can never win the presidency.

8) There is one way Trump can win voter apathy. So far in this primary cycle the Republicans have turned out over 3 million more voters than the Democrats have. The exact opposite of what happened in 2008 when the Democrats led by 3 million more voters this time in the primary cycle. Much of this turn out is credited to Donald Trump, go figure. Trump is a dangerous opponent because of his unpredictability, where Cruz and Rubio come on in the more standard political manner. The Republican Party is now devising all series of plots to rob Trump of the nomination. If they succeed it will prove that the will of the people means nothing, and that the party is in control of the elite. Trump is much like a monster that is out of control. The elite good Dr. Frankenstein is trying to destroy him, now they are fighting on the burning windmill, and the monster is about to throw the doctor off. The problem is the angry villagers with their pitch forks are rooting for the monster, this time.
Trump has given a voice to bigots and racists like no other politician in recent history. He has excited the dregs of the Republican party which has served him well in the face of weak competition. The thing that matters is that his supporters are making up only about 35% of the Republican voters with the rest finding him as revolting as the Democrats. This is going to go one of two ways... both good for the Democrats. Either Trump is going to win the nomination and be destroyed in the general election or the nomination will be stolen from him and cause mass dissension within the Republican party which in turn will cause them to lose the election badly regardless of who they nominate.
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wiseguy wrote: Trump has given a voice to bigots and racists like no other politician in recent history. He has excited the dregs of the Republican party which has served him well in the face of weak competition. The thing that matters is that his supporters are making up only about 35% of the Republican voters with the rest finding him as revolting as the Democrats. This is going to go one of two ways... both good for the Democrats. Either Trump is going to win the nomination and be destroyed in the general election or the nomination will be stolen from him and cause mass dissension within the Republican party which in turn will cause them to lose the election badly regardless of who they nominate.

8) Trump might be the voice of extreme segments of the Republican Party, but he is also attracting crossover voters from the Democrats, and more important Independents. In the Mass. Primary he got 49% of the vote and he won in Tenn, Georgia, and Alabama. So he is playing well in the North as well as the South, something that is almost unheard of. It looks like he will win Florida and maybe Ohio, and if he does then that's the ball game. The establishment is mounting an attack and Mitt Romney is making an anti-Trump televised event today. The problem is Trump is going to simply say, there they go again. The elite is trying to overturn the will of the people. The more they attack Trump the stronger he gets. Let's face it the Republican Party deserves Donald Trump.
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Bigdog wrote:
Don't forget Hilary is going to be indited for her email stuff and Benghasi killings
the country has a history of ignoring people that commit crimes ie the 14 million illegal aliens...but she hasn't counted on Trump reminding everyone about her illegal actions....she will go down in flames and will kneel before KING TRUMP... All hail the king... :D

Trumps train will run right over her dead body... Thank GOD and everyone else that supports him...


8) I thought the terrorists killed the staff in Benghazi? The criminal illegal aliens? Oh you mean the people who do all the work in this country that the citizens won't do, harvesting, making beds, providing day care for the young and the old alike? The same illegals that are paying into Social Security and probably won't be able to draw themselves, are those the people you mean? The idea of a KING should be repulsive to all true Americans. When the Revolution was won the officers of George Washington's Army offered him a crown. The old general said "We have just got rid of one King George, we do not need another"!
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It's no different than the Black panthers and 14 million criminals that are casting votes for Hilary. Bill Maher is an idiot drunk on commie coolaid. Obama ignored the work needed for the crumbling infrastructure in his last seven years...so he poisoned Detroit.
But we got Obama care that nobody can afford to buy and nobody can afford to use because the deductibles are so high... Great job killing accomplishment... He is killing Karaoke too... Worst president in history..

8) Real criminals cannot vote since their felony convictions strip them of their voters rights. Actually Bill Maher is not a drunk, he smokes pot mostly, and admits it freely. Obama did not ignore the crumbling infrastructure, the Democrats sent several public works bills to Congress in the early part of the economic meltdown. They were blocked in committee by the Republican majority, since they did not want to give Obama credit for any improvements in the employment numbers. Like Mitch McConnell said " I want him to be a one term President"! You are right about one thing Obama did not go far enough with Obama Care. He should have held out for a single payers system like they have in the rest of the civilized industrialized world, the cost would have been much cheaper per person, with better care for all. Like Churchill said "The Americans will always do the right thing, but only after they have tried everything else"!
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wiseguy wrote: Trump has given a voice to bigots and racists like no other politician in recent history. He has excited the dregs of the Republican party which has served him well in the face of weak competition. The thing that matters is that his supporters are making up only about 35% of the Republican voters with the rest finding him as revolting as the Democrats. This is going to go one of two ways... both good for the Democrats. Either Trump is going to win the nomination and be destroyed in the general election or the nomination will be stolen from him and cause mass dissension within the Republican party which in turn will cause them to lose the election badly regardless of who they nominate.

8) Trump might be the voice of extreme segments of the Republican Party, but he is also attracting crossover voters from the Democrats, and more important Independents. In the Mass. Primary he got 49% of the vote and he won in Tenn, Georgia, and Alabama. So he is playing well in the North as well as the South, something that is almost unheard of. It looks like he will win Florida and maybe Ohio, and if he does then that's the ball game. The establishment is mounting an attack and Mitt Romney is making an anti-Trump televised event today. The problem is Trump is going to simply say, there they go again. The elite is trying to overturn the will of the people. The more they attack Trump the stronger he gets. Let's face it the Republican Party deserves Donald Trump.
Yes, the Republicans certainly deserve the monster they created. The number of "crossover" voters that Trump will attract is inconsequential. There are only certain types of people who will vote for Trump and they are far from making up the majority. These primaries will not even resemble the general election cycle. Trump has not even begun to be attacked... and from both sides. No way do I believe they will make him stronger. Some prominent Republicans are already promising to support the Democratic nominee if Trump gets the nomination. You can bet that many more will follow. There's even talk of the GOP running and supporting a third candidate. However it works out it is going to be fun to watch Trump get deflated and humiliated... if it is even possible to humiliate such a narcissist.
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wiseguy wrote: Yes, the Republicans certainly deserve the monster they created. The number of "crossover" voters that Trump will attract is inconsequential. There are only certain types of people who will vote for Trump and they are far from making up the majority. These primaries will not even resemble the general election cycle. Trump has not even begun to be attacked... and from both sides. No way do I believe they will make him stronger. Some prominent Republicans are already promising to support the Democratic nominee if Trump gets the nomination. You can bet that many more will follow. There's even talk of the GOP running and supporting a third candidate. However it works out it is going to be fun to watch Trump get deflated and humiliated... if it is even possible to humiliate such a narcissist.

8) I never held that Trump would play well in a general election, no matter what happens the Republican Party is so fractured right now, that there is little hope of getting them united by November. Even if they are united they have moved so far to the right, they will be in the same place as Romney in 2012, and won't be able to tack back to the center of the electorate. I'm sure that at the debate tonight we will see Rubio on one side and Cruz on the other, attacking Trump. The Trump sandwich, two slices of Cuban bread, surrounding a big slap of greasy, cheesie, ham. It's too late for a third party run since some of the state deadlines were passed yesterday. The next 12 days are crucial, if there is going to be any hope of derailing the Trump train. If he wins either Florida or Ohio, then he will only need to rack up 57% of the remaining delegates. If he gets both the number drops down to 50%. As of today he is 20% ahead of Rubio in Florida, and 10% ahead of Kashich in Ohio. If Cruz was to drop out it wouldn't help either of them since, his voters would probably go to Trump. Many of Ben Carson's supporters are expected to go to Trump. If that happens Trump's margins could even be larger. Romney's speech today was really a joke, since there is the footage of him saying what a great guy Trump was in 2012, and how Trump says if he would have asked Mitt to get down on his knees, he would have.
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